q: when did russel/bible students came up with the 606-1914 calculations?.
for russel the invisible precense of jesus started 1874 right?.
but was'nt his year of autumn 1914 when the harma should start based on pyramydology alone?.
Q: When did russel/bible students came up with the 606-1914 calculations?
For russel the invisible precense of Jesus started 1874 right?
But was'nt his year of autumn 1914 when the harma should start based on pyramydology alone?
Or was he from the start telling about "7 times" and 360 for a year in any of his (er.. marias) books?
Or is this something that came up afterwards as a cover-up?
well, im off to the circuit assembly tomorrow.
two days of sheer joy and missed sports!
!two days of the same twenty or so brothers giving talks(it's who you know so i am told) and demonstrations, reminding us of how much they enjoy god bothering people on a saturday.
Thank God we are out of it... Spend lot of hours the day before to make the food... spend gas and 2 hour driving to the shit... and 2 hours home in the evening for two days... for nothing, exept to say "hello" to some old friends.
I am so happy that i got my wife out of it together with me and my 4 children in time...!!!
(Pheuw...)
But it was close to divorse, ill tell you, before that....
(yup,, spelling is like $hit.. but i am from Sweden)
Yup! More or less, yes!
With a grand family in yet....
With a wife that is out to 60%... but i do not underestimate those 40% cult that is leftin her.. because those are strong in her mind since 30 years of indoctrination
My 4 Kids is saved tho.... thanks for that.
I am completely out of JW in my mind... but faded on paper
Damn cult behavior... i hate it!
every once in a while there's a story so well told that it deserves lots and lots of kudos and plugs.
here's that 124-book length story which is the first one linked from "exclusive autobiographies" on the home page of www.watchtowerdocuments.com.
read it free!.
Well... this i have to read some time when i have the time to it... it's bedtime here in Europe (thinking)
But what, a fast "check out" what that "service Report slip" was all about fast... i could do i guess....
Big mistake.... have read it... all of it! and there is now night here.. and it is not long untill i have to go to work...
Dont start read..!! if dont have time to it... that was really good writing. Some parts of it could have been me writing...
i would copy and paste my emails with my mom, but that would probably be too revealing.. anyway, i said in a post a while back that i was going to tell my mom i no longer want anything to do with the organization.
there have been a series of emails between the two of us lately and she was probing to see what was going on with me.
i haven't been out in fs in almost a year and i haven't been to a thursday night mtg in over 9 months.
Out of five children.. i was the only only who get baptised.. (i was the youngest when she begun to study with the borgs)
In age of 40... with 6 years of inactive before that ... i told here exactly what you told your mom... angry of course.
We still talk to each other, but not with religious things anymore...
She very fast realise that i have more grip and understanding now about JW... than she ever had, or will get to herself before she dies.
She backoff unbeliviable fast ?!
Still faded... mom is saad now... but okay i guess..
She have dont send the elders to us... yet, we are still faded within JW...
So ... untill someone push it against us.... the hell for this congreations elders will break out when they realaise that it had been sendt out 40 personlized letters to their jw: CONCLUDING that we no longer want to be accosiated as JW:s anmore because of....
(A long list will follow then..)
We are going ahead with our own lives now..
You newer know the reaction!? ... is my learn..
Yup! im from sweden, that is why my spelling is like this..
my wife and i had stopped going to meetings in april; in december of that year we travelled interstate and stayed with the witness couple who had "brought me into the truth".
we had already told them we'd quit meetings and there was a certain tension in the air for the first couple of days until sunday morning, when, over a breakfast that eventually lasted several hours, they began to interrogate us about why we had left.
had we been stumbled?
@beasty
Maybe ask by reply "is that an essential belief to be a Jehovah's Witness?"
Your inquisitor will answer in the affirmative.
Then ask them to show you from the Bible how they know Jesus chose the WTS in 1919.
This is great!
I have read it over and over again to memorize your whole answer.
this clip is one of many cartoon spoofs of life in jw world.
this particular one is a cartoon play on the wt study.
one of my favorite parts is where the man is flipping pages in the bible, trying to find the scripture being read, and when he finds it, the person is already done reading it (which always used to happen)!
This brings me, for once, the only reason that i will come and visit a meeting in sweden again.
Just only to hear this sooooo boooring endless speakers.... not intrested a bit of what the watchtower is all about at all... just painfully read it through so we can get home again...
MOUHAHA!
Maybe i will shock the whole flock just to show up a tuesday... after 8 years of fading.... :-)
i am new to this site.
i've been out of it for about 17 years.
i've never really looked back or felt nger about any of it.
I don't think I believe in anything anymore other than the goodwill and kindness of the wicked world
It is very common that xJw turns agnostic or atheists after.
http://www.freeminds.org/blogs/spirituality-beyond-gilead/we-all-lose-faith-sometimes.html
Im agnostic now after 30+ year as a JW.
for those interested in jehovahs witnesses or those wanting to return to the kindom hall, this video is to give you a realistic look at what goes on at the meetings.
enjoy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxmjm0muvvs.
Who didnt say we where united?` Sitting in Sweden Europe and laufhg my ass off...!
So "same same".... even with the "Smurf-fear" ha ha
i am currently just sick with grief.
i can't believe this is happening to me.
all the jokes i've made about me never "falling out of the truth" and self confidence about my spirituality.
Gr.m.Jones..
Im from sweden.. and listen... you KNOW a lot more than the average JW does...know already..
Stay calm, do not rock the boat yet.
We here know exactly what you are feeling... but dont scream out as high as you ever want among your relatives, yet...
(independent from what country we have come from.. the cult is desame * :-( * )
Yoy know it is a cult.. what to do now? That is the question..
Culculate your steps from now..
Just a tip
(Tip from a man that listen a lot at this board and has done a fading from false christianity...)
